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RSR034 – Brad Jones – Alex The Great

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RSR034 - Brad Jones - Alex The Great

My guest today is Brad Jones a Producer, Engineer, Mixer, and Musician based in Nashville. With Robin Eaton he has co-owned the Alex the Great Recording where we are now since 1993. This is a particularly special episode today because Brad was also my mentor when I started out in recording. Alex The Great was the first studio where I learned how to record, and Brad was the one who taught me how to make the musicians feel at home to capture a great performance.


Brad’s production credits are extensive including Jill Sobule,

Bobby Bare Jr., Butterfly Boucher, Hayes Carll, Caitlin Cary and Thad Cockrell, Steve Forbert, Government Cheese, Jason And The Scorchers, Josh Rouse, and The Shazam to name just a few.


Brad is also a songwriter and performer. His solo record Gilt Flake released in 2000 was recognized as a master work of power pop, and I’ll include links in the show notes. He also plays regularly on Nashville stages with The Long Players, a group of musicians that recreate favorite albums in their entirety, everything from The Doors, and REM, to Cheap Trick or The Beatles. So as you can imagine Brad knows many of the classic records intimately, and understands how to create those sounds in the studio as well.

Check out Brad's Solo Record Gilt Flake!!

“We knew that we wanted to offer imagination to people and so that's why we called it a non studio name, Alex the Great.”

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Sam Phillips: The Man Who Invented Rock 'N' Roll

Brad raved about this Peter Guralnick book he just finished about the great Sam Phillips. Sam created Sun Records in 1950. He discovered a lot of the greats such as Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, and Johnny Cash! His whole life was centered around bringing about whatever was unique in each artist. 

Brad Jones - On Sam Phillips - 

There are some mistakes that are just bad mistakes but there’s others that if you just give it a moment and listen to it a second or a third time the beauty of that unexpected, unintended thing starts to come out and it starts to sound less like a mistake and more like an inspiration or a mutation. That is after all how the human race or any animal organism gets better over time is by mutating. So it could be that some of those mistakes are mutations and we should embrace them

“I spend all of day one listening to the artist, instead of the artist listening to me”

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Other Things We Talked About 

  • How Brad started his studio from nothing
  • Brad’s go to vocal mic and settings
  • Bobby Bare Jr.'s album “Longest Meow”
  • ​Mixing in stereo vs mono
  • ​Building Alex the Great
  • How coloring tracks influences your perception of the music 

Jam Session 

Q - What was holding you back at the start?
A - Well now you can get a studio in a box with your Mac. Back then you had to figure out how to get in a studio or how to buy gear and it was expensive! It’s not even inflation adjusted its the same or more back then as it is now per hour, plus I grew up in Iowa and there weren’t opportunities.

Q- What was some of the best advice you got early on?

A- Just looking at this room, Bill Halverson when we were setting up the control room, I asked where we should put up the big speakers? He said put them in the back of the control room to get the artist out of your hair, lets you be up front actually getting some work done. That was his take on where you put your big speakers, which is why they are there right now!!

“We forget that the microphone is here to serve the music”

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Q- Share with us a recording tip, hack, or secret sauce.

A - I recently got a shotgun mic. Shotgun mics are condenser mics that were used on movies so that you could have a mic picking up the dialog from 5 feet away and it wouldn’t show on the camera frame. It has such a tight pattern, without a lot of room bleed you can still hear the person talk 5 feet away. So I've been experimenting with those because my objective is to not have to mic an acoustic guitar at 12 inches anymore. To not have to mic an upright bass because there's other people playing and there's bleed. I want to hear what that bass sounds like a few feet away from it. The problem with all rooms that you're in is that there's going to be weird wall reflections. So if you use a U87 5 feet away, you’ll hear the bass in a way that sounds way more realistic than that bass would ever sound than if you were up close to it. But the downside is bringing all that weird splashy wall reflection, and that’s kind of an ugly meat-locker sound. So my shotgun mic has been a way for me to sort of hear that bass at 5 feet without the wall reflection.

Q - Share a favorite hardware tool for the studio
A- I love my harmonica mic, my green bullet, I put on everything. Let me put in a pitch for the API 550 because there is some philosophy behind this. Everyone knows the API 550A is the original, great API 3 band EQ. The reason I think it's worthy to reach for in the studio, even the plugin version, there is not a half DB boost on it. If you choose 1.5k, which is the frequency I choose more than any of the others, it forces you to do either a 2 or a 4 DB boost or cut. There’s no little pansy half moves. It forces you to carve big and recklessly, and that's what I adore about it!


“Each record is its own puzzle, each record has it own set of problems and its own things. You have to approach each record that way”

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Q - Share a favorite software tool for the studio

A - I get so much use to this very day out of the most unsexy, oldest plugins that there are. I find that Digidesign lowly proprietary EQs are intensely usable. They are laid out not with vintage knobs, they are just dull grey backgrounds with a slider. That slider is so much quicker and easier to use. To be able to type in the exact threshold or time that I want rather than putz around with some knob that doesn’t work right. I think there's a lot of visual hocus pocus going into these newer plugin for eq and compression where the older ones are much easier to work. I’m a big believer of McDSP’s they are not sexy to look at, they look cheap. They do everything, and they do it really super well. I use the Digidesign pitch shift all day long.

Q - Share with us a tip for the business side of the recording studio

A -  I don’t have a very good answer for that. We’ve never been very ambitious here, it’s always been word of mouth thing, but in today’s environment if you’re out with a studio from scratch you really want to carve out some niches for yourself. Be a studio that specializes in doing location recordings at megachurches or be a studio that specializes in jingles that are geared toward internet placement or be a studio that's geared towards unplugged and acoustic music. Give it a thrust, it might be harder than ever to be all purpose.

“Working in mono all day long causes you to carve harder and make bolder, bigger choices”

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Q - If you had to start over what gear would you need? How would you find people to record? And how would you make ends meet while you got started?

A - Back to what I was saying earlier, find your niche. Make your gig mobile, record church choirs or sporting events. If you're set up in your home become good at mixing a particular kind of music. On the production side of it, picking undervalued stock. If you’re a new and unknown guy in town go see music as many bands and singer-songwriters as you can. You’ll see the ones that have people hover over them because they are the current buzz band, you’re not going to get that band you need to make an approach to a band that’s being somewhat ignored and you think you know the reason why and the easy fix. You make your pitch to that band explaining why their message isn’t getting through and why you’re the guy to get their message to start coming through, or you have a whole new idea for them. Two things could happen, they think you’re crazy and fire you because they don’t want to hear it, or they think you’re crazy and they give you a shot! A couple months later, when the fans say they’ve never heard the band sound so good.. that's when you're the hero; that’s when you go from chump to champ.


“We don’t need music that is beautifully blended because there's enough of [it]. We need bolder moves”

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Q - What is the single most important thing a listener can do to become a rockstar of the recording studio?

A - Put in the time with understanding how music is put together. Put in the musical time. Learn a new instrument, analyze the musical structure and chords of a song. Figure out why a Beatles melody is so fresh and why others aren’t. Figure that stuff out, it takes thousand of hours to do it too.You have to put in the time.

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Big Thanks to Tyler Cuidon & Merissa Marx for this week's episode!!


RSR029 – Craig Alvin – Badass Mixer

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RSR007 - David Glenn - The Mix Academy

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RSR029 - Craig Alvin - Badass Mixer 

My guest on the show today is Craig Alvin, a fantastically talented recording and mixing engineer originally from Portland, OR before moving to Nashville TN.


He has been making records for over 20 years, and has an eclectic discography having worked on several Grammy nominated projects. His work spans Contemporary Christian Music on one end of the spectrum, to cool pop, and rock music on the other end.


His credits include Amy Grant, Vanessa Carlton, Lady Antebellum, Frankie Ballard, Chase Rice, Will Hoge, The Features, Butterfly Boucher, Erin McCarley, Hanson, and How I Became The Bomb to name a few.


I’ve known Craig for years as a badass magician of mixing that can take the tracks I’ve recorded and make them sound like what I imagined they could sound like. He has long since mixed with a hybrid of digital and analog gear that brings the best of both worlds together to create a sound that is powerful and compelling.

“I’ve had records that I’ve worked on that have won awards, that have been hits in various markets, that have been nominated for Grammy’s...and none of them are records that I really love, or am proud of, or have on my demo reel. The records I’ve made that I’m really proud of tend to go unnoticed.”

Craig Alvin

“It took me a long time to listen to how [music] makes me feel rather than to think technically about what I was doing” @CraigAlvin

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Craig's Studio: 

I have a Harrison Series 12. It's about 20 years old, its digitally controlled analog. Its sort of like having protools mixing but in analog form. I can take a sound from ProTools send it to outboard gear, then back into the console on a fader. When I work, I start a conversation with the song. It keeps me in a positive mindset and thinking on the thing I’m supposed to be thinking about which is the song, and the song should be speaking back to me. Once you’ve been sitting in the same room for 8 years mixing by yourself, you have to develop some ways to trick yourself into thinking you’re working on music with people.

Harrison Series 12

“Music is meant to be shared and experienced as a group” @CraigAlvin

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Favorite Effects or Outboard Gear: 

1. Distressor (super versatile compressor) I have them set up as parallels for my kick and snare trick I learned from Joe Chiccarelli. On kick it gives me a solid punch sound that I can bring up. On snare, i have it pretty squishy so i can give it more length.

2. I have a AKG BX10 spring reverb that I’m absolutely in love with. It’s the only reverb I ever found where I can drown a vocal in reverb and people still think it's dry.

Gates Sta-Level

3. Gates Sta-level. I bought my sta-level back around 1990. From a guy in Portland in $50, I then traded it to Seasick Steve, he used it for about a year and traded it back to me for a mic that he wanted. That thing has been on every lead vocal of every mix I've done since about 1996.

4.I have a Neve 33609 that lives on my drum bus and that compressor can do no wrong. It doesn't matter how hard you hit it, just running through it makes things sound better.



Favorite Albums He's Worked On: 

Ryan Lindsley’s - White Paper Beds

Erin McCarley -  Love, Save the Empty
Peter Barbee -  Among Savages

Andrew Belle -  Black Bear

“Ryan Lindsley’s White Paper Beds, is one of my favorite records I’ve ever worked on” @CraigAlvin

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Tips for Recording Great Drum Sounds: 

I have a philosophy that some things should be left alone or done with minimal processing such as my close mics. (kick snare, toms, overheads should be set up to get the best sounds without a lot of processing) then I have the opposite where I have mics set up specifically for lots of compression or EQ or distortion to give the kit its character. At mix those can be varied or eliminated. I also tune (the drums) to almost every song.

“Engineering 101: if you’re studying audio engineering, gain staging is everything. What I’ve found, is when I gain stage certain pieces of gear, I start to get this affect where I have optimized everything. I start off every mix by getting my low set, I set my kick drum and bass guitar and they always hit and they always hit the console at the loudest part of the sound at the same meter. Once you have set that, that's where you know your low end sits best, ..I do the low end first because the low end requires the most amount of energy then I start to build up the rhythm section around that. Those two don’t change because we’ve hit the optimal spot for the console”

“You cant just watch a video or read an article and be good at it right away, you have to train your ear and learn the technique” 

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Jam Session 

Q - What was holding you back at the start?
A - I think it was that I wasn’t focused. I wanted to play bass, I wanted to be in bands, I was in school trying to learn theology and I was just not focused on it. I took a decision to stop playing in bands, stop running live sound for everyone, get out of school and just focus on recording.

Q- What was some of the best advice you got early on?
A - The very first time I walked into the studio and Joe (Chiccarelli) was there setting up drums and working on a 24 track we needed as many tracks as we could get. So we decided to mix the overheads with high hat and tom mics and I looked at him and said, “we’re gonna mix these now?” He looked at me like I was the biggest idiot in the world, he said, “We’re mixing right now. We’re always mixing, mixing is our job.” And that was a huge revelation to me. The truth is when you choose a mic, you’re mixing. When you choose a location for that mic, you’re mixing. When you choose a particular musician to play a part, you’re mixing! There’s another bit of advice that I got. I lived in Oklahoma for a few years and my friend Ted, who spent some time in the music business, would always say, “the difference between whether something happened or didn’t happen, it whether it happened or not.” It makes no sense, but what he meant was, if something's not happening in a mix and you choose to let it go by, then that’s your choice. It didn’t happen because you didn't make it happen. I think he said it to make you take responsibility for the situation

“I can now have a studio where the knobs never turn on the outboard gear” @CraigAlvin

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Q- Share with us a recording tip, hack, or secret sauce.

A - The first thing I do (when it comes to vocals) I believe in the careful care and feeding of compressors. And what you’ll notice when looking in ProTools is that the waveform will be very loud in the bridge and quieter in the chorus. The first thing I do is go through with clip gain and even that out in a general sense so it’s kind of one volume the whole way. I do it visually so it’s more or less the same volume. The reason why is because I want the compressor and the other effects to be more or less in the “butter zone.” I get it so I can set my compressor once and leave it. Then I use automation to turn the volume up and down, after compression. After that I’ll filter out low end rumble and vocal pops with the RX plugin or the linear EQ from waves and use that in audio suite. After that the best thing i’ve learned for a vocal is something we used to do with tape. I have the UAD studer plugin. This the custom "Craig Alvin" setting on that: 456 tape with noise turned off. Then I run it at 7.5” per second, I turn the bias all the way up to make it darker and turn it to +9 to get more saturation. Right above the bias, there’s a high frequency tilt that’s on the record side, and I turn that up till the high end sounds right again. What this does is it gives you tape saturation, but that works in a really beautiful way with s’s. You can get by with so much less de-essing, and it’s probably the best vocal compressor that you can find

Q - Share a favorite hardware tool for the studio
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You really can’t underestimate the power of having good delays. Like in particular the PCM41 by Lexicon. They’re kind of looked down upon because the 42 is supposedly the better version. I think its important to have bad gear laying around. The great thing about having bad gear like the PCM41 is that it has built in character. It has a sound that harkens to a particular era. With the 41, I will turn the delay all the way off but turn the mix all the way up and run acoustic guitar through it. You can turn a really nice sounding Martin guitar into a crappy old archtop that way. A lot of old altec consoles have these crazy, really kind of bad sounding mic pres and EQs that are phasey weird spring reverbs and stuff. Those things are fun to record percussion. When I was working on the features Wilderness record, I went around to pawn shops and bought all the old 12 bit audio gear I could find. I found this thing called the Yamaha Rex50, which is a 12 bit version of the SPX90. That became really a big part of of his sound he had to go out and find a couple to keep with him when he tours.

“We have a listening deficiency going on right now. People believe the hype machine, the believe the rumor mill, but they don’t spend the time to be diligent and just go listen to everything” @CraigAlvin

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Q - Share a favorite software tool for the studio

A - I am completely in love with the UAD tape emulation especially the ampex and the studer. But I found Echoboy from Soundtoys and I turn off the delay and turn the mix all the way up. They have all these filtered sounds that essentially are what I was talking about with the weird audio gear and you can vary them in all kinds of ways and I do that ALL the time. I’m using a delay, but not as a delay, more like a channel strip.

Q - Is there any trick we should know about how to effectively name pre-sets and keep them organized?

A - I remember these in context through the song, so I name them based on the context. I have a reverb named Adam Lester Magic because there was a guitar player names Adam Lester and I found this pre-set that made his guitar come alive. And I use Adam Lester Magic on a lot of guitars now.

“I do some records simply because I have to pay the rent, but I think you should always strive to do meaningful work” @CraigAlvin

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Q - Share with us a tip for the business side of the recording studio

A - I’m not good with the business side. Honestly the thing that’s helped me the most is getting management to negotiate for me because I always sell myself too cheap.

Q - If you had to start over what gear would you need? How would you find people to record? And how would you make ends meet while you got started?

A - If I was in that situation, I wouldn’t think of gear yet. I would go find a job someplace where musicians gather maybe a bar, coffee shop, lyft or uber driver, someplace you can meet the people making music. Make a budget and figure out how much money you need a month to live and save until you have 3 months saved. Put that away and do not touch it. Now, by this time you’ve met the musicians, keep doing your job, and get behind those people and push life crazy. Help them record, help make their studios better, engineer for free, help them unload after a gig, do that stuff, make yourself invaluable to that scene and you will succeed. But you have to have money in the bank first so that you don’t go crazy.


“I really believe you get better results when you don’t mess around with the basics” @CraigAlvin

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Q - What is the single most important thing a listener can do to become a rockstar of the recording studio?

A - Practice mixing everyday for hours a day. Seriously, get ahold of track do everything you can to practice making them sound better. Listen and compare your mixes to ones you know are good, and keep working on them until they sound as good as those mixes. You have to discipline yourself and spend a lot of time doing this. But once you do that, you’ll have trained your ear to know what a good sound is. 

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craigalvin@gmail.com